Nov 24, 2013; Los Angeles, CA, USA; Floyd Mayweather watches the game between the Los Angeles Lakers the Sacramento Kings at Staples Center. Lakers won 100-86. Mandatory Credit: Jayne Kamin-Oncea-USA TODAY Sports

The Four Horsemen: Welterweight Legends Who Would Have Beaten Floyd Mayweather Jr.


 
 

Floyd Mayweather, Jr., improved his flawless record to 46-0 after notching a majority decision over rough-hewn Marcos Maidana on May 3. It was his umpteenth championship victory and another successful business venture for one of the biggest moneymakers in boxing history. Since winning his first title at junior lightweight in 1998, Mayweather has proven himself to be one of the best fighters of his era. But how would he have fared against some of the welterweight legends of the past?

Trying to compare eras is relatively futile, since contemporary boxing bears only a slight resemblance to the sport of 60-80 years ago. Until about the early 1970s, generally speaking, there were only 8-10 accepted weight classes and one champion per division. There were also three or four times as many professional fighters practicing the Sweet Science, which made competition both plentiful and fierce. Most important, perhaps, is the fact that premium cable channels did not exist; fighters had to appeal to the sporting masses to make a living. They did that, for the most part, by fighting the best competition available. When the only way a fighter—and a promoter, for that matter—could prosper was by attracting an audience, the matchups were invariably better. Even during the closed-circuit era—roughly from the early 1950s to the late 1980s—the production costs were so daunting that promoters could risk only putting the biggest attractions together. If an event failed, the promoter faced financial ruin.

Ultimately, the outlandish fees paid by HBO and Showtime over the last 20 years or so for mediocre bouts—combined with the impulse-buy nature of pay-per-view—have created a false market where fighters flourish regardless of their opposition. All of this—along with the new weight divisions and four madcap sanctioning bodies–has led to hundreds of fugazi achievements. The boxing record books now make as much sense as the scrawling David “Son of Sam” Berkowitz left behind on his apartment walls. A good case could be made for calling Mayweather the best fighter of the last 25 years. But here are four welterweights who might have left the self-proclaimed “Best Ever” humbled. (Note: These pieces were originally written six months ago for inclusion in a larger feature on Grantland. For some reason, that article was never printed.)

 

 

ROBERTO DURAN

 

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A nearly unstoppable combination of wile and ferocity, Roberto Duran turned pro in Panama at 15 and embarked on a reign of terror that lasted nearly a decade. It began when he mauled stylish Ken Buchanan for the world title in 1972 and ended with his notorious tank job against Sugar Ray Leonard in 1980. But for eight years Duran reminded bitter stogie-chewing old-timers of glory days gone by. Notable for a mean streak whose existence had nothing to do with Twitter or TMZ, Duran was a pressure fighter from hell. But what separated him from other run-of-the-mill aggressors was a superb defense, one predicated on angles precise as those drawn up in AutoCAD. Only gifted Esteban De Jesus, who handed Duran his first “L” in 1972, troubled “Hands of Stone” in his prime. And Duran twice avenged his loss to De Jesus in subsequent years.

After 12 title defenses of his lightweight title, Duran rose to welter, where he took a few stopgap fights (including one against future Hall of Famer Carlos Palomino!) before ripping the welterweight title from Olympic loverboy Sugar Ray Leonard in Montréal. Leonard won the infamous “No Mas” rematch at the Superdome when Duran decided training was not nearly as important as mirror balls and arroz con pollo. Overweight by dozens of pounds in camp, Duran gobbled diuretics during preparation as if they were Baby Ruths.

Against Mayweather, Duran would charge out at the opening bell looking to land ripping hooks and uppercuts in close, counter rights from the outside, and thudding elbows from wherever he could launch them. Duran would not give Mayweather time to set up his leisurely offense, and the lauded defense that worked so well against Robert Guerrero and Henry Bruseles would splinter into shards after 20 minutes under the hot lights against Duran.

 

RESULT: DURAN W12 MAYWEATHER

*****

 

SUGAR RAY ROBINSON

 

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Like Charlie Parker, Thelonious Monk, Charles Mingus, and Dizzy Gillespie, Ray Robinson was a genius. No other fighter in history had the hepcat steps Sugar Ray practiced in the ring. With the kind of improvisatory moves only a virtuoso could perform, Robinson left dozens of world-class operators cross-eyed and kicking up rosin. A late modernist masterpiece, Robinson was so smooth he belonged on the cover of a Blue Note LP designed by Reid Miles. But Robinson knew what risk was in the ring. Like a smoke jumper, he dropped into one roped hot spot after another. He spotted Jake LaMotta 16 pounds in 1943 and fought him again only three weeks later. He swapped punches with, among others, Kid Gavilan, Randy Turpin, Jose Basora, Henry Armstrong, Sammy Angott, Fritzie Zivic, Gene Fullmer, Carmen Basilio, Rocky Graziano, and poor “Bobo” Olson, whom Robinson whipped as often and as casually as he pleased.

Still, you can find some who say, mistakenly, that Robinson fought second-raters. Ultimately, this is a question of context and milieu. Yes, Robinson flattened his share of journeymen and fringe contenders, but these were professional prizefighters, men who fought 15-20 times a year against other hardened professionals when there were three or four times as many fighters plying their dark trade than there are today. Not many people stocked shelves at Wal-Mart for 10 hours and then trained at night to perform in the ring every six months against a full-time policeman or an EMS tech back then. The difference between pro fighters during the 1940s and the twice-a-year-part-time wonders of today is the difference between a weekend poker player and Phil Ivey.

Robinson had only two weaknesses: a nighthawk outlook and occasional defensive lapses. In fact, Robinson was so good that champions and contenders in three different weight classes avoided him, and it took him six years and over 70 fights before he got his first title shot. When he finally lost to someone other than Jake LaMotta, Robinson had amassed a professional record of 128-1-2.

With the possible exception of defensive filibustering, Mayweather does not have a single edge over Robinson. Sugar Ray would leave Mayweather on his face in six or seven rounds.

 

RESULT: ROBINSON KO7 MAYWEATHER

*****



SUGAR RAY LEONARD


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Believe it or not, there was a time when fighters faced actual challenges in order to earn the name “champion.” Thomas Hearns had to drygulch dreaded Pipino Cuevas for his first title. Aaron Pryor steamrolled South American stalwart Antonio Cervantes. Even Barry McGuigan—perpetually maligned for his Hall of Fame status—clipped legendary Eusebio Pedroza for his only world title. And Sugar Ray Leonard? He took on the unequaled defensive master and troubled wunderkind of his era: Wilfred Benitez. Leonard scored a last-second TKO over “El Radar” in 1979 to kickstart one of the briefest but most explosive careers in boxing history.

With his kilowatt smile, his killer instinct, and his Lieutenant Colonel Kilgore attitude toward risk, Sugar Ray Leonard made good on all the headlines that proclaimed him heir apparent to Muhammad Ali in the late 1970s. Not only did Leonard flash some of the fastest hands ever seen in a ring, but he also had power to spare, and he was versatile enough to master any style. Trailing on all cards against Thomas Hearns halfway through their epic 1981 fight, Leonard switched to brawler, pushing himself to the limit before scoring a late TKO against one of the most feared fighters of his era.

If the 1980s were the Age of Go For It, as Ron Powers once referred to them, then Leonard was the boxing embodiment of that sensibility. In less than two years, Leonard faced Wilfred Benitez, Thomas Hearns, and Roberto Duran (twice). Leonard could have made millions fighting Davey Green and Bruce Finch types, but his ego demanded more than just riches. In fact, Leonard was the antithesis of the circumspect Mayweather, whose career was subsidized by HBO for years.

Mayweather would be able to keep Leonard at bay for a few rounds with his pesky jab and his general know-how, but at some point, Sugar Ray would solve the puzzle box in front of him and smash it into bits.

 

RESULT: LEONARD KO11 MAYWEATHER

*****

 

 

THOMAS HEARNS


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No one ever outboxed Thomas Hearns in his prime. Not even Sugar Ray Leonard could do it. The master of razzle dazzle, Wilfred Benitez, was at a loss against a Hearns who chose to work behind his snapping jab, move his gangly legs, and unleash his Hellfire-Missile right at terrifying intervals. At 6’1 and with a 78” reach, Hearns was a baleful sharpshooter whose trunks should have been adorned by a Red Cross sponsorship. Hearns was an amateur standout sans power in the mid-1970s. By the time he turned pro, however, he had improved his leverage and developed a right hand that left bodies quivering on the canvas. In 1980 Hearns won the first of six world titles in five divisions when he crushed Pipino Cuevas, one of the hardest punchers of his day, in two horrifying rounds. It was like watching video of someone being trampled by a bull in Pamplona.

As a welter, his power was nothing short of crippling, and even after rising in weight Hearns left Roberto Duran on his face in Las Vegas, ill-fated James Shuler counting atoms in his last ring appearance, and Argentine strongman Juan Roldan dreaming about wrestling bears again in sideshows out in Cordoba. But rough-and-tumble fighters with anvils for chins took advantage of his poor inside game, his spindly legs, and his shaky jaw.

Since Mayweather is not the mauling type, he would be unable to exploit the only weaknesses Hearns had. His low workrate would allow “The Hitman” to dominate with his jab on the outside. Although Mayweather might have some success whenever he takes the offensive, he does not hit hard enough to rattle a chin that only serious punchers could dent and keep dented. In addition, a few right hands would keep Mayweather on the defensive for most of the fight. Hearns would outpoint Mayweather for a unanimous decision.

 

RESULT: HEARNS W12 MAYWEATHER

 

 

*****

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  • Jimmy Tobin

    Hi CA, this typically great, especially the smoker jumper line. Goddammit! I wish that was mine!

    The point that most stuck with me was that of the greater number of fighters competing for a smaller pie. I know that Floyd can’t really be dogged for his competition, given that he simply didn’t have the same crop of guys to pick from after 135. Still, Vernon Forrest, a younger Mosley, Winky Wright, a prime Margarito, Paul Williams–there are fights I wish Floyd had taken. But had he fought a few decades earlier, that list would’ve been even larger.

    People can say, “Well, he fought all the guys out there! TBE!” and then go back to watching World Star Hip Hop videos, and they’ve got an argument sort of. But who those guys are matters too.

    The guy whose always struck me as an absolute nightmare for Floyd is Hearns. I mean, if Maidana had Floyd uncomfortable, Duran have him in an absolute tizzy, and Robinson is arguably the greatest to ever do it (Armstrong, maybe?), and Leonard was awesome. But Hearns was so long, he hit so hard, and like you pointed out, you had to be a legit monster to get rid of him at his best. I bet he could cow Floyd with the punches he landed on Floyd’s gloves. And if one of those got through? Shit, if Duran was left facedown, what would a guy who got hurt by Chop Chop Corley do?

    But hey, TBE fits nicely on a cap with a flat brim. And nothing else matters.

    • thenonpareil

      Hi JT,

      thanks, buddy, I appreciate it. Smoke Jumper! I got that from Wildlife.

      a lot of people seem to have trouble comprehending that whole “boxing was once a flourishing industry from coast-to-coast in America” thing. You know, I used to have a 90% complete set of Ring magazines from 1940 to 1960 and it was always amazing to read the fight results in every issue. There were probably more fights in New York state in, say, 1940, than there were in the whole country last year.

      And you always hear about how much better fighters are today because of modern training methods…but you see fighters exhausted all the time before the fifth time. Mayweather, though, fits into any era because of his defense, conditioning, and I.Q. So, that’s a plus.

      As far as more fighters clawing for fewer opportunities….can you imagine Beibut Shumenov in 1949?

      Then, in the case of guys like Duran, Leonard, and Hearns, technological limitations forced them to fight each other to get the biggest paychecks possible. Robert Guerrero would never have popped up on closed-circuit TV in the 80s…not unless someone shot him out of a cannon and across the Grand Canyon.

      Mayweather certainly, uhh, did not engage in the best fights over the years. With HBO bankrolling him, he could face Carlos Gerena, Ndou, Bruseles, etc. He fought some pretty good fighters–Corrales, Manfredy, Castillo, Hernandez, etc.–but fighters who were within reach that he missed included Stevie Johnston, Casamayor, Freitas, Tszyu, and the guys you mentioned above, including prime versions of Cotto and Mosley. And, of course, Pacquiao. Because a lot of people who weigh in on this stuff discovered boxing in 2009, they’re not aware that, even at the time, Mayweather was criticized for his opposition. Like a completely washed up Sharmba Mitchell, for example.

      I don’t usually get into this Fantasy stuff–which is why I mentioned that this was written for Grantland–but I do think it’s interesting to see how many people seethe and get worked up over it. But the fact is, no one thought Leonard was great for beating Bruce Finch, they thought he was great for facing Duran, Hearns, Hagler, and Benitez. That’s the difference between back then and now, when bragging rights seem a lot easier to obtain. Shit, Too Tall Jones retired undefeated.

      Anyway, this is all just meant to be fun! And I’m a fun-lovin’ fella!

  • Gerardo

    Manos de Piedra, the only figher who could have out-elbowed Mayweather.

  • Alpoy Luffy

    TBE=The Best Evader or The Best Enema.lol

    • Juel Dugas indino

      The most Braggart and Egoistic=TBE. Why would Mayweather want a rematch with Maidenna when Maidenna almost had an upset against the over rated Floyd Hauxweather, and if Mayweather is 200% convinced that he won the fight against Maidenna; why give Maidenna a rematch? Simple. To put another easy cash in his bank account and have another route of ducking Pacquaio. After the Maidenna fight, Mayweather boasted, I always find a way to win the fight. That’s BBBBBBBBBSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!! The why not fight Pacquaio as requested by Ali and Lewis and the boxing public?

      Mayweather and his cohorts concocted another alibis and alibis to continue avoiding Pacquaio at all cost to protect the supposedly 43-3 win-lose record by Gayweather according to Dela hoya.

      Floyd will only fight Pacquaio if his ff. conditions are meet:
      1. Pacquaio’s blood must all be drained before the fight;
      2. their ring must be as big as the NBA court;
      3. their gloves must be as big as pillow and must be soft as cotton;
      4. If Pacquaio wins, all his purse must given to charities worldwide just like what Pacquaio issued in publicly challenging Mayweather to fight him for free;
      5. If Mayweather loses, he gets all the purse plus PPV and that he will not be vanished in USA the land of the brave.
      6. Mayweather must be allowed to use a head gear to avoid facial surgery just like what Pacquaio did to Margarito( broken orbital bone), Cotto, dela Hoya, Diaz, Barrera, Morales, etc;
      7. Pacquaio’s left hand must be tied at Pacquaio’s coconut balls so it can’t do damage to Floyd’s pretty face and thick lips;
      8. Freddie Roach must use sign language in coaching Pacquaio, Roach’ mouth must be plastered during the fight;
      9. Finally, Floyd must be allowed to make it doubly certain that he and Pacquaio must have the same female organ before the fight takes place.

      • sarap

        hahaha! this list of mayweather demands is almost accurate, and funny too!

      • Steven Keaton

        I’m gonna copy and paste and steal this fyi

      • Juel Dugas indino

        Thanks Steven Keaton. It’s just that it’s very frustrating why a great fighter (The most Beautiful boxer Ever ) …Floyd Mayweather claims he is, won’t lace his gloves with the fighter he called, ordinary fighter, amateurish, one dimensional, yellow Asian fighter, and according to Floyd an easy fight for him if the fight pushes through, then, why all just talk and not fight the little fella, midget Manny Pacquaio? After Floyd’s fight with Maidenna, Floyd said, I always find a way to win, okay there you go Floyd, then why not fight Pacquaio? Is it because Mayweather have compared his fights with Mayweather and Hatton, the fighters whom Pacquaio dismantled in a fashion only Mayweather could have dreamed of or imagined of having done it himself instead of Manny Pacquaio? Floyd is suffering from the so called, “Narcissism Syndrome” the difficulty of accepting reality that he cannot exceed the public’s expectation from him to beat Pacquaio soundly, that’s why Floyd was so envious that Pacquaio won the Fighter Of The Decade Award given by the ABWA over him, and that until now, Mayweather had been wondering how Pacquaio conquered Eight Weight Division World Champion. Simple, Pacquaio’s balls is as big as Philippine coconut. Mayweather’s ball? Mayweather’s balls has the size of a peanut. Simple. In other words, coward. Pacquaio challenged Floyd to fight him with bare knuckles and for free and Mayweather did not respond to the challenge. Pacquaio said, Floyd, if you’re a real man fight me inside the ring, until now no response from Floyd Braggartweather.

        Floyd is bringing so much shame to America by becoming The Best Evader, The Best Ducker Of All Time. In MMA, the fighter fights whoever is in lined for him to fight, he has to put or shut up.

        Mayweather is full of millions of alibis to avoid fighting Pacquaio at cost. He is scared to death to see Pacquaio face to face as Mayweather would surely pee in his pants every minute and will have a Lost Bowel Movement. If you watch Pacquaio-Morales II, you could see Floyd Mayweather cheering for Pacquaio. So, how could Mayweather fight his secret idol Manny Pacquaio? Maybe if America will summon Floyd to fight the little Asian fighter Manny Pacquaio, and all the media network in America, will not talk about Floyd anymore by making him irrelevant, Floyd will be forced to borrow the eggs of ALI, LEWIS and TYSON to finally fight Pacquaio or face the following consequences:
        1. Floyd will be sent to Afghanistan with the US MARINES for him to grow his balls;
        2. America will boycott all his fights if he won’t fight Pacquaio;
        3. Floyd will show it to the public if he is circumcised;
        4. Floyd will be forced to publicly reveal her sex organ, either it’s a male or female.
        5. Floyd’s bank account will be frozen and will only be allowed to use his money after he fights Pacquaio. I think Mayweather-Pacquaio mega fight will finally happen.

        • Steven Keaton

          Somehow I just now saw this. Well done

  • Jing_Tapia

    The author might have overlooked Marvelous Marvin Hagler who reigned terror a the Junior Middleweight division and have defeated most of the above with shocking results. His only loss was a questionable ( SD ) against Sugar Ray Leonard who made it a hit and ran affair..

    • jun endozo

      the article is about welterweight legends, so with due respect, Hagler cannot be included in the list.

  • Juel Dugas indino

    Floyd Gayweather is no real sportman, he beat his wife, he beat ordinary security guards, insensitive person by burning dollars in front of the public, super duper braggart, he came in overweight against JMM, he pot shot Ortiz during the break, he cried over the gloves to be used in his fight with Maidenna. Floyd keeps on dodging Pacquaio and other tough competitions, and Floyd keeps on throwing racial slurs against Pacquaio.

    Floyd will only fight Pacquaio if his ff. conditions are meet:
    1. Pacquaio’s blood must all be drained before the fight;
    2. their ring must be as big as the NBA court;
    3. their gloves must be as big as pillow and must be soft as cotton;
    4. If Pacquaio wins, all his purse must given to charities worldwide just like what Pacquaio issued in publicly challenging Mayweather to fight him for free;
    5. If Mayweather loses, he gets all the purse plus PPV and that he will not be vanished in USA the land of the brave.
    6. Mayweather must be allowed to use a head gear to avoid facial surgery just like what Pacquaio did to Margarito( broken orbital bone), Cotto, dela Hoya, Diaz, Barrera, Morales, etc;
    7. Pacquaio’s left hand must be tied at Pacquaio’s coconut balls so it can’t do damage to Floyd’s pretty face and thick lips;
    8. Freddie Roach must use sign language in coaching Pacquaio, Roach’ mouth must be plastered during the fight;
    9. Finally, Floyd must be allowed to make it doubly certain that he and Pacquaio must have the same female organ before the fight takes place.

  • Jojo

    THE BEST EVADER ! Hahahahahahaha

    • philipmatsikoudis

      JoJo figuered it out betyter than anyone. On the money with that comment…YOU GO GIRL

    • Juel Dugas indino

      Floyd will only fight Pacquaio if his ff. conditions are meet:
      1. Pacquaio’s blood must all be drained before the fight;
      2. their ring must be as big as the NBA court;
      3. their gloves must be as big as pillow and must be soft as cotton;
      4. If Pacquaio wins, all his purse must given to charities worldwide just like what Pacquaio issued in publicly challenging Mayweather to fight him for free;
      5. If Mayweather loses, he gets all the purse plus PPV and that he will not be vanished in USA the land of the brave.
      6. Mayweather must be allowed to use a head gear to avoid facial surgery just like what Pacquaio did to Margarito( broken orbital bone), Cotto, dela Hoya, Diaz, Barrera, Morales, etc;
      7. Pacquaio’s left hand must be tied at Pacquaio’s coconut balls so it can’t do damage to Floyd’s pretty face and thick lips;
      8. Freddie Roach must use sign language in coaching Pacquaio, Roach’ mouth must be plastered during the fight;
      9. Finally, Floyd must be allowed to make it doubly certain that he and Pacquaio must have the same female organ before the fight takes place.

  • philipmatsikoudis

    I don’t believe Duran would beat Floyd Mayweather at Welterweight. Duran beat Leonard because Sugar Ray chose to be macho & outslug a great slugger. It was a terrible idea and cost Leonard the fight. In the rematch when Leonard used the correct strategy of utilizing his physical attributes instead of trying to beat Duran at what Duran does best, Leonard boxed his ears off. Leonard would beat Duran every time if he boxed him instead of trying to outslug him. My guess at Mayweather would do the same. However, at Lightweight, which would be a far more compelling match where both Boxers are actually better at 135 lbs than they at 147 lbs it becomes a different story. If Duran has a referee who doesn’t enforce the rules, like he had in Tommy LoBianco, the night he won the Lightweight Championship Fight against Ken Buchanan at Madison Square Garden in 1972. Whenever a dirty fighter like Duran has a lazy or stupid referee who doesn’t bother or know how to enforce the Rules of Boxing that’s a tremendous edge for a Fighter who brazenly violates the rules as Duran did. Throughout that entire bout Duran rough-housed Buchanan with every conceivable dirty tactic in the book and Tommy LoBianco did nothing at all at any time to even try to enforce the rules. Even when it was vehemently called to his attention that Duran was violating the rules in any number of ways, LoBianco was as useless as a Wooden Indian. He even did nothing when Duran landed vicious blows below the belt, headbutt, cuffing, holding and hitting, etc… It has to be one of the worse refereed fights in Boxing History for a World Championship. And this was in the days when Buchanan was the one & only Champion, there weren’t 4-6 others laying claim to some phony alphabet strap. You really have to wonder about a Referee who does absolutely nothing, even when it’s called to his attention and the fouls are so prolific and obvious. It was as if LoBianco said to himself, “Oh, so you want to tell me when a foul happens. I’ll show you, I’ll let Duran foul you all he wants. Despite Buchanan’s plethora of protests and the announcer, the great Don Dunphy was continuously pointing out the blatant fouling by Duran to the Bout’s T.V. audience, LoBianco just sucked as a referee. He was totally abysmal and his work as a Referee of a World Championship Bout was a disgrace. Finally Duran landed a tremendous left uppercut to the scrotum that put the fight in the bag for Duran. Buchanan said he pissed blood for 3 months after the bout. Had the Rules been enforced properly I believe a very different outcome would have occurred. Kenny Buchanan was an elite Boxer who was a good angle Boxer, but not in Mayweather’s class on that aspect, however, Buchanan’s adroit foot speed was superior to Mayweather’s. Buchanan was technically the best Boxer in the world at the time of the Title tilt. If Duran had fought Mayweather at Lightweight with a referee who doesn’t do his job he would also lose to Duran, however, if the ref prevents Duran from using his dirty tactics, i.e., punching a guy in the balls with all of his might and that referee totally ignores it, I don’t care how great of a Boxer you are, you’re going to lose. Whenever a Boxer is allowed to violate the rules prodigiously, as Andre Ward did against Mikel Kessler with his endless head butting that tore up Kessler’s face as well as hurt him, how could Kessler possibly overcome an opponent who is constantly bashing his skull flat into Kessler’s face over and over again. Kessler had no chance to win with a do nothing referee who refuses to acknowledge the plethora of illegal head butts throughout that entire bout. If a referee fails to enforce the rules against head butting for the entire match, the Boxer be fouled is a goner. That’s why head butting is illegal. If it’s allowed it gives the Boxer who is a Billy goat a tremendous edge.

  • Bob Jameson

    He’s going to duck them all. As simple as that.

  • barry gil r. pilar

    …nAh these things are all non-sense, we know thAt the all time great fighters mentioned here belOng to pAst era while the self-proclaimed TBE fights at present. We could just presuppose whAt would happen if ever floyd has fought these guys. One thing the writer forgEts is that floyd is a mAster ducker and he will mAke million excuses not to fight these guys. Until now he is avoiding and ducking his best challenger who is mAnny, sometimes we could not walk to our own nightmAres!…

  • Alvin Meynard Mendoza Arceo

    I totally agree,but then again as a real fan of the sport,name me a junior lightweight or lower who can whup money’s ass.,maybe sandy saddler,willie pep,?the thing is mayweather is too small for them guys,robinson fought as a light heavyweight,all of them ventured in the middleweights and above,It’s not a fair assessment.

  • EDMsquare

    so funny, you sports writer are the reason why boxing is dying. you kept on writing who wins if so and so fighters fight so and so fighters of the past…etc. etc… you totally forget that there is only one fight we want to see at this current time and that is between floyd and manny. if you all can join hands together…you will be able to make this fight a reality.

    • philipmatsikoudis

      How can a Sports’ writer’s story about fantasy dream matches have any impact on whether or not Mayweather and Pacquiao Box for the Welterweight Championship? Your belief iis as much a fiction as Mayweather Boxuiing Henry Armstrong at 130 lbs. Armstong would score a KO!!!

  • Alpoy Luffy

    Looks much better now

  • teodorico buscagan

    A Maidana rematch is a perfect alibi to avoid or delay a Pacquiao fight.

  • rhey

    how about aaron pryor? but aaron pryor vs manny pacquaio is much more interesting…

    • philipmatsikoudis

      Aaron Pryor has to be the greatest Junior Welterweight ever

  • goodmen

    Floyd Mayweather Jr. is joke compared to other greats in other eras, not even close, FMJ doesn’t fight great fighters on his own time, can you imagine an 8 division world champion, who is fighting on his time and era falls under his record, wow that would be great. but unfortunately it is not, it is just a mouth watering scene that boxing fans wants to see and but will never see unless FMJ find his balls.

    • Juel Dugas indino

      Floyd Gayweather is no real sportman, he beat his wife, he beat ordinary security guards, insensitive person by burning dollars in front of the public, super duper braggart, he came in overweight against JMM, he pot shot Ortiz during the break, he cried over the gloves to be used in his fight with Maidenna. Floyd keeps on dodging Pacquaio and other tough competitions, and Floyd keeps on throwing racial slurs against Pacquaio.

      Floyd will only fight Pacquaio if his ff. conditions are meet:
      1. Pacquaio’s blood must all be drained before the fight;
      2. their ring must be as big as the NBA court;
      3. their gloves must be as big as pillow and must be soft as cotton;
      4. If Pacquaio wins, all his purse must given to charities worldwide just like what Pacquaio issued in publicly challenging Mayweather to fight him for free;
      5. If Mayweather loses, he gets all the purse plus PPV and that he will not be vanished in USA the land of the brave.
      6. Mayweather must be allowed to use a head gear to avoid facial surgery just like what Pacquaio did to Margarito( broken orbital bone), Cotto, dela Hoya, Diaz, Barrera, Morales, etc;
      7. Pacquaio’s left hand must be tied at Pacquaio’s coconut balls so it can’t do damage to Floyd’s pretty face and thick lips;
      8. Freddie Roach must use sign language in coaching Pacquaio, Roach’ mouth must be plastered during the fight;
      9. Finally, Floyd must be allowed to make it doubly certain that he and Pacquaio must have the same female organ before the fight takes place.

  • warlaw

    MarvelousMarvin hagler langt upi na yang Gayweather na yan.