Aftermath: On Hopkins-Pascal

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Bernard Hopkins looked down-at-heels for three or four rounds against Jean Pascal last night in Quebec City before taking over for the last two-thirds of the fight, showing the intelligence, professionalism, and technique that his far younger opponent lacked. It was, considering how Hopkins usually performs, a pretty good scrap at the Pepsi Coliseum.

After dropping Hopkins twice in the first three rounds—once with a borderline rabbit punch—Pascal spent the rest of the night filibustering. Unable to figure out what to do with a real pro, Pascal simply did nothing, and let Hopkins, who turned professional in 1988, control the pace and work out openings at his leisure. Letting a fighter like Hopkins take his time, plan, and execute is a serious tactical error. Joe Calzaghe edged Hopkins in 2008 by throwing megatons of leather and forcing Hopkins to react instead of dictate. It certainly was odd seeing a 46 year-old boxer landing lead left hooks to the body from two or three feet away on a fighter young enough to be his son.

In addition to losing the program along the way, Pascal also made it very clear, via pronounced body language, that doubt was setting in as to whether he could find it again. The fist bumps and pounds he exchanged with his cornermen after his early success ended sometime after the fourth, when Pascal began to fight like an eavesdropper following a few thudding Hopkins hooks to the body. Indeed, some of those bodyshots left Pascal resembling a man choking on a hambone, and several straight rights seemed to shake Pascal, who remained hesitant for the rest of the bout. Rarely does Hopkins outwork a fighter, but Pascal allowed him to that as well and had to settle for a disappointing draw.

Hopkins will be competitive with young fighters forever, probably, simply because his technique is far superior to those of contemporary fighters. Many of the “stars” out there today barely know which foot to put forward first, and others have seen their skills atrophy by fighting tomato cans and stiffs for years. Hopkins keeps his chin down, feints, decoys, throws compact hooks and straight rights most of the time, and works his hands in close. These skills can offset most speed and youth advantages, and Pascal brought nothing into the ring last night but speed and youth. He was lucky to get away without a dreaded “L.” Hopkins, on the other hand, has another reason to hang around and taunt just about anyone within earshot.

As for Pascal, he looks like another fighter whose reputation, like many in contemporary boxing, was hyper-inflated after one solid victory. A good fighter, nothing special, whose single prominent win, over Chad Dawson, was exaggerated by the fact that Dawson was an imaginary resident of several absurd P-4-P lists compiled by the same folks who repeat “turn back the clock” over and over again like parrots on crank.

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For the most part, watching Hopkins fight over the last few years has been an unpleasant experience in any number of ways. First, Hopkins is almost always obnoxious during the pre-fight buildup; second, the fights are almost always ugly, mauling affairs; and third, Hopkins is almost always obnoxious during the postfight follow-up. Now, however, one also has to brace oneself for the slew of banal articles chockablock with “turn back the clock,” “ageless wonder,” and “fountain of youth” gibberish.

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Since Compubox has an exclusive deal with HBO, Showtime used some other punchstat company to count blows for Hopkins-Pascal. Interestingly, Compubox also kept tabs on the fight and comparing the two sets of figures highlights the absurdity of this success-proof endeavor. Not only do the punches landed differ significantly, but so do the punches thrown category! Compubox had Hopkins throwing 502 punches, while Showtime had him throwing 445. Where did the other 57 punches go or come from? Showtime had Pascal landing 105 blows and Compubox set the number at 86, an average of just slightly over seven punches landed per round, surely one of the most pathetic Compubox figures ever recorded for a twelve-round fight. These punch track companies are silly and using them is only another way for boxing to deepen its reputation for absurdity.

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A draw was not out of the question, but boxing today is an asylum run by lunatics with keyboards. The funniest patients are the ones who cry out, “That was a robbery! I had the fight 114-113!” as if a single point is enough to determine an outrage.

Dopier still are howls of protest against Canada itself, as if an entire country could be at fault for a boxing match being ruled a draw. Canada has produced, among others, Leonard Cohen, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, David Cronenberg, Wayne Gretzky, Marshall Mcluhan, the Cowboy Junkies, Marconi, Emile Nelligan, Mavis Gallant, Jimmy McClarnin, Frank Gehry, Alice Munro, Atom Egoyan, and, of course, Yvonne De Carlo.

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Hi Carlos
Just watched the fight on Youtube, Very strange performance by Pascal who seemed very reluctant to get involved. Having seen his performance against Froch, I would certainly have expected more. I would have thought that against a soon to be 46 Hopkins, he would have been more active to try and test the older mans stamina. However, Pascal showed himself to be extremely one dimensional and not well schooled. Hopkins just has so much ring generalship and savvy that you can see him more than holding his own with practically anyone. Overall very disappointing from Pascal. I had Hopkins winning but you could make a case for the draw and it certainly was not a complete home town decision, unlike the way Lebedev got robbed against Huck.

Hi Neal,

Strange is the right word for Pascal's game plan, or lack of one, actually. He basically admitted to having an off-night, which may explain some of what happened, but Hopkins had a lot to do with it, and, as you say, Pascal is simply not a well-schooled fighter. He certainly has his attributes--speed and mobility, among them--but Hopkins will chew up any fighter in the world who lacks a jab and who barely throws punches in combination. I suspect Pascal began to realize this after the fourth round or so and that might explain his reluctance. His body language seemed to indicate a certain amount of physical and mental discomfort. Unfortunately for Hopkins, falling behind by 5 points after three rounds is a hard thing to overcome.

I haven't seen Huck-Lebedev yet, but I hear it was a good fight, albeit perhaps a hometown decision. According to reports, nothing beats what happened between Archie Solis and Luis Lazarte over the weekend, however.

A couple of weeks ago you wrote about art and the other day you posted a pic of yourself supposedly in some ghetto. Now you want to play Famous Canadians. LOL. Although to be honest, I haven't ever heard of half that list ever before. Maybe not so famous Canadiens, then, I guess. BTW Hopkins ran Pascal from the ring and didn't win a round. He WAS robbed so get it straight. If I wanted to now about art or famous people from Canada I 'd watch pbs or something. Why don't you just stick to the fights? Sound good?

Oh, man, this is too awesome. TCS must be getting bigger, since I am getting comments from dumbbells with more regularity. Dude, you get a pass on me "editing" this because your comment is by far the stupidest one I've gotten all year. That mix of arrogance and ignorance is something special--you should be a boxing writer, no doubt about it.

What cracks me up most is the fact that you seem to be a repeat reader since my "art" post was about a month ago.

How, if I may ask, did Hopkins run Pascal from the ring and, simultaneously, not win a round?
Anyway....

Boxing is a sport that lends itself to metaphor, simile, rhetoric in general, and its baroque nature also conjures up the possibility of "interdisciplinary" allusions to psychology, philosophy, sociology, history, media studies, theater, literature, and, yes, art...You wouldn't know that based on reading many of the jokers out there today who never reach for anything but the cheapest cliches and the most banal sentiments, usually accompanied by references to cartoons or rap stars.

No offense, but I have to guess that you haven't watched PBS in a long, long time, and I suspect that if you wanted to "now" about art, you would probably stick your head in a urinal and flush repeatedly. Sound good?

Hi Carlos,

I thought the first four rounds were difficult rounds to score, but came out with Pascal winning 1-3 and Hopkins winning the fourth. From then on, Pascal didn't do a whole lot, and when he did decide to throw the occasional flurry, Hopkins had an answer. I gave the rest of the rounds to Hopkins making it 115-111, but I could have given Pascal 8 and 10 to make it a draw. Not that my opinion is superior to anyone else's, that's just my perception of the fight.

Robbery? No. Hometown decision. Not really. I felt Hopkins won the fight, and I thought he was hard done by the Belgian's card, but I'm not outraged. Of course, "Hopkins got jobbed." and is now the guy that features in everyone's sig.

I love the "FUCK CANADA!" attitude that the keyboard warriors have taken, because it's the whole of Canada's fault that a Belgian judge scored an even round in the 10th.

Pascal is a blueprint of the new generation of fighters: Highly toned, anaerobic training regimes with very limited technical skills. Hopkins and Mayweather are probably the last old school American fighters that have the technical skills that separates them from the rest of the pack. Offence comes before defence nowadays and everyone seems to forget that boxing is a combat sport that's a form of self defence, not a form of fighting.

Hi Dafs,

I hear you on the scoring. I guess it's just really hard for judges to give one fighter 8 or 9 consecutive rounds...especially when a couple of them were at least close.

Schaefer cracks me up with his new-found hatred of Canada. Ditto Gary Shaw, who now wants to pretend Chad Dawson was "robbed" up in Quebec, too. Of course, if Hopkins and Dawson could sell a ticket or garner a ratings point, they wouldn't have to go up there in the first place. Even Mr. Anonymity, Tim Bradley, had to go up to Canada to hear the sound of turn stiles in motion for the first time in his life. Sebastian Demers and Renan St. Juste lost close decisions in Canada over the last couple of years, so it's possible to get a fair shake up there.

I agree with you 100% of the limitations of some fighters these days. I learned how to box (not very well, of course, and I tried it mostly just to see how it was done) at Gleason's Gym in Brooklyn 13, 14 years ago and the basic steps they taught me there--fundamentals, really--are hard to find in many boxers these days. A lot of them get away with what they get away with because they are fast and athletic, yes, but also because they are facing opponents who also have poor fundamentals and can't take advantage of mistakes in front of them. Hopkins has mastered the basics and has the mind of a prizefighter--although he sometimes outsmarts himself, as he did against Taylor--while a guy like Pascal seems very limited when compared to his lofty status. Many fighters look like juggernauts in America these days because they crush patsies over and over. As soon as they step into the ring with slightly better competition, they look like poop. Too often, however, that slightly better competition never shows up for a cameo.

For the record, I, for one, have no problem with Canada. Except Quebec. They make printing packaging ever so difficult.

In seriousness, this felt like robbery to me, but I couldn't find a round to give to the extraordinarily reluctant Pascal after, maybe, the 5th, and it's hard to give close rounds to someone engaging that little. Hopkins is amazing. I'm sure going to be sure to really appreciate him when he's gone.

Hi El Destruyo,

I'll keep in mind what you said about Quebec if I ever have to do some, errr, printing packaging stuff.

I had Hopkins winning slightly, but I never pretend my score trumps every body else's and I never post my own scores here for that reason. It's conceivable that Hopkins fell behind by six points after the fourth round. At that point, it becomes mathematics: Hopkins would have to win the next eight rounds in a row to edge the fight by two points. If one judge gives Pascal any of the last 8 rounds, it's a draw. But you're right, Pascal was just too inactive to earn the benefit of the doubt most of the time during the close rounds. I would go further and say Hopkins took him out of the fight, psychologically, I mean. Pascal looked mentally weak in there, but I could be wrong.

Hopkins is an amazing athlete and it was a fine performance by a man who is a thinking fighter, and a real professional. He is far too clever for the likes of Pascal, and I'm happy to see Hopkins get props by actually fighting a light heavyweight (other than Tarver, Pascal is the only light heavy he's fought since moving up from middleweight). Also, I was pleasantly surprised that it was a good scrap, something a Hopkins fight doesn't always deliver.

CA,

Spot on man! I didn't score the fight, but I "felt" like BHop edged it. Pretty sure I remember BHop winning both the rounds he was knocked down in. Still very surprised he was knocked down at all. The first knockdown was indeed borderline,but I didn't really have a problem with it being scored that way.

When this fight was announced, I picked Pascal as I was sure all he had to do was "be young"...to steal another phrase from McIlvanney. But as the fight grew closer I got spooked and ended up picking BHop. I figured BHop's counter right, would be a problem for Pascal and his skittish footwork. And, of course that BHop would go to the ruff stuff and basically destroy any sense of rhythm for Pascal. Very surprised that BHop ended up outworking him. No way in hell he should've been able to land some of those lead hooks to the body. But sort of like you said, BHop's skills and timing are it's own sort of speed. Add to that him "turning back the clock" and taking a dip in the "fountain of youth"....what you get is a performance like that.

What? You're not willing to blame Canada? Go back to Russia! I've tried to refrain from using the term "robbed" recently. There are times when that is exactly what I'd meant...but, a lot of times it was a lazy way of saying I thought the other guy won.

Hi JPF,

I thought Hopkins won, too, but, if he did, it wasn't by more than one or two points. If he won by two points, then that's one round away from a draw, so what's everybody crying about? I'm watching the fight on TV, I'm not a professional judge, I'm not at ringside, so should I just pretend my having Hopkins up by one point is the be all, end all?

I picked Hopkins over at the Boxing Bulletin, but you never know what's going to happen when one guy is (basically) 46 years old. I'm just glad it wasn't a bad fight...but Pascal did not resemble anything like a professional prizefighter; the man doesn't even seem able to throw a one-two, and Hopkins had him flinching late with feints and body shots. I was definitely shocked to see Hopkins on the mat twice, but he showed what a true professional is by getting up and saying to himself, "All right, he got a good lick in, but this fight's not over." Pascal seemed to react differently when Hopkins continued to pursue him.

"Turn back the clock" nonsense is tiring, but the funniest thing I read was some guy mangling a Latin aphorism: he said "carpe the diem!" Oh man, that was too funny!

I'm at the point where I'd like to see every fight end in a one round KO, like the Marcel Cerdan video I posted on Facebook, so that no one can come out and say "Robbery!"